si', l'ha detto diverse volte negli ultimi anni, e tutte le volte ha specificato che la condizione necessaria e' che non ci sia il coinvolgimento di nessuno del management attuale dei DP

...e potrebbe anche non aver torto. 40 anni di carriera passati senza un evento ufficiale...

e potremmo fare mille altri esempi... basta guardare come vengono gestiti i due (due!) siti ufficiali (manco mezza notizia), o i criteri con cui vengono autorizzate le uscite live o certe compilation...

ma credo comunque che gli scazzi tra blackmore e il management (payne) siano di altro tipo (soldi, royalties, ecc ecc)

anche a piedi.

Certo sarebbe interessante approfondire questo lato per capire alcuni aspetti della diaspora del Divino ..... anche alla luce di quella frase riportata all'inizio (che avevo già letto) che paradossalmente (e forse indicativamente) non accenna ai contrasti personali tra imembri ... ovvero con Gillan ....

“Reunion” is a popular buzz word these days in classic rock circles. People even apply the term to bands that are still together, especially Deep Purple. They talk about a reunion with Ritchie Blackmore and Jon Lord, or a reunion with David Coverdale and Glenn Hughes. What is your take on these reunion rumors?

I was sitting with the mayor of Moscow, who offered us the Red Square and untold millions to do it in his city and I said, “Well, with the greatest respect, I won’t be there.” It doesn’t interest me because we have a living, breathing band. That would be like a circus act.

I had dinner with Jon Lord in Tokyo the other day. We had a lovely evening off. That subject never even came up. Ritchie Blackmore, who I used to room with, is an amazing guitar player. But he left a long time ago, then the clouds disappeared, the rain stopped and the sun came out. I am not crawling through that cat flap into the darkness ever again.

You don’t look 67 anyway, but don’t you think that it’s time to do another Rainbow album?

Ronnie James Dio: Also, it’s the Rainbow question, eh? No I will never do another Rainbow album. I’ll never ever do that again. I want no part in doing it; I want no part in doing anything with Ritchie at all. I respect him, he’s a genius, he was a great part of my life, but I don’t need to go through that hell. Especially, when you get to be this age, do I need to suffer more? I think life should be easier as you get older and not more difficult. And Ritchie is too difficult a person for me to deal with, because I like to have control of my own life. When I’m not in this band, I’m in the Dio band. We think the same. So, there is no problem with not liking each other or demanding that I have to do something that I don’t want to do. So, it’s not a place I want to go to. I’m happy for Ritchie that he’s happy doing what he’s doing. I wish he were not doing it and I wish he was still making rock ‘n’ roll music. But maybe he’s too old… He’s pretty close too.

[...]

And he’s a man in love…

Ronnie James Dio: Well, I don’t think that excuses not making great music. I don’t think so. To him, maybe he is making great music. Good for him, good for him.

We have a saying but I won’t translate it, cause it contains swearing… But anyway a woman can pull a whole ship…

Ronnie James Dio: Ohhh, yeah, we call it “Following your dick up a cliff”. That’s what it’s called. (He’s making fake screams) “Oh, oh, she’s still up there and I’m down here. Forgot about that. I died and she didn’t”. It’s true, it’s true and maybe that’s the way he is. But knowing Ritchie as I do, he has… she may be important to him, but I don’t think she’s more important than he is to him. I’m not trying to make Ritchie out as a bad person, because he’s not a bad person, he’s a good person and as I said before, he’s a genius, but he’s making life difficult for people, he’s not a kind man at times and I don’t wanna be around cruel people, I had enough of that from him…

[...]

I don’t have to, but I certainly won’t. I mean, even if it was something I had to do, I wouldn’t do it. If it was something that meant putting food on my family’s table and I had to play with him, I wouldn’t do that. I’d find some other way; I’d go dig a hole on the ground, become a carpenter or become a bricklayer or do anything. But I don’t need to put myself in that anymore. Been there, done that… Once again I say, I had no problem with Ritchie, Ritchie and I never argued, we never had a problem. I think I was always able to write the things that he wanted; until he decided he wanted to be a pop star. And then he started doing pop music. And once he did that, that was the end for me. I didn’t want to do that, I was lucky enough to be able to get into Sabbath and write things that were… perfect for me. I wanted to be heavier than what he allowed me to be… or allowed his band to be. You know, I just look back on an angle “Thank you very much, Ritchie, for teaching me so much and allow me to play with a genius like you”. But I think, at the end of the day, there comes a time in his life when he says “I want to thank you, Ronnie, too, for putting that band on the map, because once I left Deep Purple, without you, who was going to do that”. Nobody could have done what I did, writing those songs at that time. After he came out of this huge band, Deep Purple, he was the most frightened person in the band. (Changing his voice) I hope this works… Do you think they will like it? Yes, I think they’ll love it, it will be a great album and it’s going to be wonderful. But I don’t hear a lot of nice things he says about me, but I take the high role, I say a lot of nice things about him, because that’s the way I find it. I don’t have a problem with him at all and I don’t have a revenge problem with Ritchie. But I don’t want to get to a situation where life is difficult again and he makes life a bit difficult for me. You know, I’m not saying the things that other people have said about him and they were a lot more cruel that I was about him… I mean, what he put them through…

Do you have anyone particular in mind?

Ronnie James Dio: Aha, anybody who ever played with him… Let’s see… Graham Bonnet, Joe Lynn Turner probably, Mark Clarke, Tony Carey, Cozy (Powell), who can’t defend himself anymore. I think everybody who knew that he was a difficult person to live with. So, mainly all those people, all those people he kicked out of his band or replaced them with… I mean, look at Roger Glover for example, he kicked Roger out of Deep Purple and as we see now, Deep Purple wanted nothing to do with Ritchie, being back in the band, especially after they got back together again. They are so much happier with Steve, because Steve is a nice guy. Ian Gillan would never ever have anything to do with Ritchie. So, I guess we mentioned Ian, too, and Jon, too. Any of them… I think all of them… I don’t want to put words in their mouths, I’m not talking for them, but, you know, having known all these people so long, I know what it’s like. And once again, I can only say to you, what you should take from this, is that I admire than man so much, he is a genius, absolute genius, we made great music together for a short period of time and when it ended, it was a time when it should have. I look back at those times, as wonderful wonderful times, great memories, great music that we made, but it’s not a place I want to go to again.

ritchie non accenna mai a contrasti personali; d'altra parte, pero', a quanto pare nessuno vuole piu' lavorare con ritchie. cito solo alcune interviste recenti con gillan e dio, due tra i frontman piu' "di lusso" che abbiano lavorato con blackmore:

Ian Gillan @ Vintagerock




Ronnie James Dio @ RockPages

per capire invece le questioni piu' strettamente legali, si potrebbe partire ad esempio dalla famosa diatriba sull'eliminazione di ritchie dal merchandising relativo a machine head.

gli estremi degli atti processuali dovrebbero essere questi:
Blackmore v. Thames Talent Publishing, Ltd., Thames Overtures, Ltd. and Bruce Payne 01 Civ. 5521 (E.D.N.Y.)

per chi volesse investigare :

Blackmore, et al v. Thames Talent, et al
Case Number: 2:2001cv05521
Filed: August 15, 2001
Court: New York Eastern District Court
Office: Central Islip Office [ Court Info ]
Presiding Judge: Judge Nicholas G. Garaufis
Referring Judge: Magistrate William D. Wall
Nature of Suit: Intellectual Property - Trademark
Cause: 28:1332 Diversity-Breach of Contract
Jury Demanded By: Plaintiff

Beh... ad ogni modo... al di là della diatriba Gillan - Blackmore...
Ritchie non aveva certo un caratterino che si facesse facilmente amare eh...

And he’s a man in love…

Ronnie James Dio: Well, I don’t think that excuses not making great music. I don’t think so. To him, maybe he is making great music. Good for him, good for him.

Once again I say, I had no problem with Ritchie, Ritchie and I never argued, we never had a problem. I think I was always able to write the things that he wanted; until he decided he wanted to be a pop star. And then he started doing pop music. And once he did that, that was the end for me.

Ti ringrazio, conoscevo queste affermazioni ... e sono tral e più indicative sulla personalità del Divino, però .... io volevo ritornare probabilmente almeno al 1993 .... cioè quando Bruce Payne .... manager dei Rainbow e poi dei Deep Purple, rompe col suo primo cliente.

In questo senso, quanto qua sotto da Te indicatoMi ...




.... mi sembra ... più il segno di epilogo della rottura.
Blackmore ... è fuori del tutto e contrasta stizzosamente la band anche con questo mezzo.

Tuttavia, però, è importante altresì rilevare come il possibilismo di Blackmore sulla reunion sia subordinato solo ai non-contatti con i managers - ovvero Bruce Payne - piuttosto che ai rapporti personali con gli altri membri .... non sembra dire infatti una cosa del tipo .... "piuttosto che suonare ancora una volta con Ian Gillan mi taglio gli zebedei" .....

E' una differenza importante .... al di là di quanto affermato da Gillan (ora sotto management di Payne .... ) ... e per questo vorrei sapere se si può capire che successe a livello di management e rapporti con The Battle Rages On e relativo Tour.

Forse, ipotizzo io, è semplicemente la reazione capricciosa per avere acconsentito alla volontà della band di buttare fuori la Jolene e di richiamare Ian .... però Ritchie aveva accettato pure un cospicuo assegno per rimanere .....

Lasciando la band poi però c'era stata una controversia attorno alla concessione delle liberatorie reciproche perchè la band suonasse i pezzi scritti da Ritchie e viceversa quest'ultimo per suonare i pezzi dei Deep Purple ......

Ecco questo volevo approfondire ....

quello che si voloeva tagliare qualcosa piuttosto che tornare nei deep era un altro.

su youtube ho appena pescato questa..non avevo mai sentito questa storia..inquietante (sulla destra la traduzione in inglese del racconto)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ6F5OF3EYM

se anche dovesse accadere, sarebbe un concerto nei soliti posti, Londra O2 arena o giù di lì, con prezzi da capogiro oltre al viaggio....